Tuesday, November 21, 2006

Blatant Boneheadery

Blatant Boneheadery: When someone makes an argument so ridiculously idiotic in face of facts to the contrary that, if they're serious, their sanity is in doubt.

Example 1: John Kerry botched a joke. He meant to say, "[If you don't get an education], you get us stuck in Iraq." He instead said, "...you get stuck in Iraq." He then explained what had happened, saying he had left out the word "us." And now, the blatant boneheadery this explanation was met with:

Tony Snow, current White House Press Secretary, criticized this as follows, "He said he meant to say 'us' - I mean, 'You us get stuck in Iraq?' It's ridiculous!"

He's either lying through his teeth when he says this must be what Kerry meant, or he's an utter bonehead. But then again, who but an utter bonehead would be Press Secretary for Bush? But I digress...

Example 2: The following is excerpted from Bronze Dog's reply to that insane troll, Weapon of Mass Intruction:

God has never murdered nor raped.

Ever heard of the flood?

Ever read about all the massacres in Joshua?

Ever read Numbers?

Sounds like murder and rape to me. He may not have done all of those acts himself, but commanding them is just as bad.

Here's Weapon's reply, spread out pointlessly over three posts just as he did:

Weapon of Mass Instruction said...

Ever heard of the flood? Ever read about all the massacres in Joshua?

Funny. I find no examples of rape. Apparently you have a hard time differentiating between killing murder. I assume that you also believe that our American troops are murderers as well.

11/21/2006 12:22 PM
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Weapon of Mass Instruction said...

The fact is that if God were a murderer he definitely would have not died on the cross for you.

11/21/2006 12:23 PM
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Weapon of Mass Instruction said...

Sounds like murder and rape to me. He may not have done all of those acts himself, but commanding them is just as bad.

Well, I do not know where you see him commanding rape, but for someone who has a fanatical hatred towards God, it is not surprising that you would make up lies about him.

According to your hermeneutic you are liable for murder too every time you eat chicken.

11/21/2006 12:27 PM

You catch it? He says that he didn't see any instance of God commanding rape, but this is only because he completely skips over the reference to God commanding rape. Given my past experience with Weapon, I'm betting on this being because of his severe brain damage.

These are just a couple examples, but they both come from (supposedly) functioning human beings. It kind of makes you fear for humanity.


Acute_Agnostia said...

I've always found it odd that some Christians (i.e. Fundies) choose to take everything it (the Bible) says literally, but then ignore the passages that prove how vile a book it truly is.

I truly hope I'm wrong, but I wonder if their intent is to use those passages (after they gain control) to commit the same acts themselves. The hypocrisy they have never ceases to amaze me.

Also, the passages from Numbers reminds me of Eugenics.

Mechalith said...

I think it's more a matter of attempting to breed a conquered population out of existance as fast as possible. When the majority of a potential uprising is related to you it tends to reduce the danger.

Infophile said...

Not all of them ignore it, some simply don't see anything wrong with it. In their view, we're all God's creations, so he has the right to do with us as he wishes. For an interesting story of someone like that, check out this post over at Daylight Atheism.

I think part of the problem is also that they just haven't read it, or they tend to forget about the parts that don't make sense. Of course, the biggest problem with taking the Bible literally is when it contradicts itself. The simple presence of contradictions should be enough to prove you can't take it literally.

As for the actual events described there, in my opinion the genocide portion of it is just choosing the easier option over trying to control them. Then keeping the virgins would just be giving the soldiers the spoils of war.